Most under-rated drummers

Both Graham and Tony Beard.

Is Tommy still with the Buckinghams? I was working with a former member/founding member of that group for a short time.
Back to the Gratzer/Panozzo issue. these were 2 guys I could not watch live, horrible technique especially John........ALL arms, no wrist, was like looking at early caveman. Alan had a similar approach that I just recently watched again on VH1 classic.
As to sound of the 70's/80's, yes quite a few guys were indeed doing this, but in fairness, it falls on the engineer, Alans drums sounded much deader then say Jeff's or Gadds. MO

Hi

This is the topic that several of you asked me to re-post.

And with this, here are another couple of underated drummers in the world today:

Tobias Ralph, just got back from a tour in Germany with pop singer Nena.

And, on the jazz side, Ian Froman, Canadian former Elvin Jones student, now teaching in New York and in Boston.

My vote is this guy.

http://www.borlaigergo.hu/media/videok.php

Holy shite, that guy can play!

Do you think he likes Vinnie?

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Probobly Sean Rickman.

Omar Hakim (I don't think he's recognised that well in relation to the other legends, e.g. Weckl, Gadd, Vinnie. I do think that he could well be the best that I've ever heard. He's natural, groovy, fluent and has chops. He is a legend and a master at his art)
Poogie Bell
Bill Maxwell
Carl Albrecht
Paul Brochu

NO scat, Derek! [...Ditto, Roy]
How/Where'd you find [out about] that?

Theres NO doubt that guy has definite VC inspiration...in his playing, & right down to those "G-whites"... [img]wink.gif[/img]

What's that dude's name - Hoel Lodda Noates?! [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]cool.gif[/img]

Check out those clips [on DDF's link] -
1. 1995_white_chocholate
2. european.mantra.02
3. kaltenecker_trio-2000_aprilis_cegledi_dobos_gala

Not a bad player at all - for an "over-achiever!" [img]wink.gif[/img]

Give that guy a shot of B-12, a pot of coffee, & some vitamins, & ginseng, will ya?! He's puttin' me to sleep! [not]

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 07, 2004 07:04 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

He used to frequent the site sometime ago I believe. I got the site link from Steve. He used to have an English version but not since he's updated; hopefully he'll come by again as he's a killer player.

I actually don't hear that much of a Vinnie influence in him. You can SEE it, but I don't hear it oddly enough.

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Originally posted by Mathias Sarsgaard:
Probobly Sean Rickman.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">yup, and Pete Zeldman

I give a vote for Mick Fleetwood, who sounds like Porcaro on the Bob Welch French Kiss disc. I thought it was Porcaro because there was definitely a Porcaro feel to it.

His fills and tasteful beats are pretty cool.